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Java Programming [Archive] - Semi-Interesting comparo perhaps?
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Semi-Interesting comparo perhaps?  
Aug 6, 2004 7:03 AM



 
Anyone interested in Coding trends? Ran across this during this morning's reading ... any thoughts?

http://nl.internet.com/ct.html?rtr=on&s=1,11rj,1,2luf,g178,aldy,9nfk

Regards,

~Bill
 

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Re: Semi-Interesting comparo perhaps?  
Aug 6, 2004 8:15 AM (reply 1 of 11)



 
It doesn't seem very meaningful to me. "The search query '+" <language> programming" -tv' is used to calculate the TPC Index." Extrapolating number of search engine hits to anything else is sketchy at best.
 

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Registered: 9/30/99
Re: Semi-Interesting comparo perhaps?  
Aug 6, 2004 8:39 AM (reply 2 of 11)



 
lol If you want to see true trends in programming, go buy a newspaper and look at the want ads. Count how many ads and see many are asking for what type of programmers. You also have a problem with regional data. In our area: Seattle - C/C++, C#, Java, SQL, Java Script. There are the top 5, I'll not try to order them, all are very widely used here although C/C++ probably tops the list.
 

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Re: Semi-Interesting comparo perhaps?  
Aug 6, 2004 8:50 AM (reply 3 of 11)



 
Hmm.

When exactly did SQL or IDL become "programming languages"?

(I choose only the most eggregious examples of inclusion as a "programming language" on the list here).

/k1
 

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Re: Semi-Interesting comparo perhaps?  
Aug 6, 2004 8:53 AM (reply 4 of 11)



 
When exactly did SQL or IDL become "programming
languages"?

I was just about to ask the same question...
 

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Re: Semi-Interesting comparo perhaps?  
Aug 6, 2004 9:00 AM (reply 5 of 11)



 
When exactly did SQL or IDL become "programming languages"?

Q: What definition of programming languages has been used?

A: The adopted definition is "any computer language which is either interpreted or compiled and is capable of manipulating data". Based on this definition languages such as HTML and XML are not considered programming languages. ASP is also not because it is regarded a technique that makes use of other languages such as JavaScript and VBScript.
 

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Re: Semi-Interesting comparo perhaps?  
Aug 6, 2004 10:45 AM (reply 6 of 11)



 
Yeah, I don't buy into it much either ... but then again, newspaper adds are not as much use as they could be either, since a majority are by agencies (here anyway), and tend to lump stuff like:
"experience in Java, C++ and similar OO lang experience a plus, as is HTML and SQL", etc.

Just the same, I thought it was of some minor interest ... and I suppose 5 posts is about right ;o)
 

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Re: Semi-Interesting comparo perhaps?  
Aug 6, 2004 10:45 AM (reply 7 of 11)



 
Well, the one I go by, and it is in no way a technical nor purist look, is in the want ads from the various consulting firms and companies they say: "SQL Programmer" and "will be proficient in the SQL programming language".
 

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Re: Semi-Interesting comparo perhaps?  
Aug 6, 2004 10:51 AM (reply 8 of 11)



 
Yeah, I don't buy into it much either ... but then
again, newspaper adds are not as much use as they
could be either, since a majority are by agencies
(here anyway), and tend to lump stuff like:
"experience in Java, C++ and similar OO lang
experience a plus, as is HTML and SQL", etc.

I would think that the multiple listing ads would actually be of more interest as far as indicating popularity of languages: these agnecies that recruit usually represent several companies and have ties to many many more and they are listing their "hot tool sets" for thier region.
 

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Re: Semi-Interesting comparo perhaps?  
Aug 6, 2004 10:56 AM (reply 9 of 11)



 
"I would think that the multiple listing ads would actually be of more interest as far as indicating popularity of languages: these agnecies that recruit usually represent several companies and have ties to many many more and they are listing their "hot tool sets" for thier region."

These type of adds tell one what's in demand, but not really which are the most in demand, or rather, in what order they are needed; that is ... in comparison with the kind of non-scientific approach that the article in question admits to using, these type of newpaper adds are - IMO - not any better at judging this.
 

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Re: Semi-Interesting comparo perhaps?  
Aug 6, 2004 11:08 AM (reply 10 of 11)



 
I would totally agree there, but from ads you can definetly see what the top 5 in your area is and probably decern which is most popular. My point being, that the article, as pointed out, is probably not any better at telling what is popular than taking 10 minutes of looking in the Sunday want-ads.
 

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Re: Semi-Interesting comparo perhaps?  
Aug 6, 2004 11:21 AM (reply 11 of 11)



 
This got more replies than I thought ... and yeah, I think it's kind of bogus too as I said.
 
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